obama care. >> politics trumped -- >> we think alike. >> absolutely. i spent the whole weekend, "washington post," "forbes," -- >> boring weekend. >> i was consuming everything i could because this was important and the public wants to know ways going on. two things came clear. number one, this was obama's baby. he wanted this website up and running and it was going to be his shining moment, his shining accomplishment. the other thing, that was it, politics overrule practicality because it wasn't ready. as recent as mid-2011, cgi, cgi federal, which is the canadian firm, the american subsidiary of cgi, the canadian group, was hired to come on and get obama care up and running. this was important. i call this a smoking gun, all right, this was in "the washington post" blog about four or five clicks in. it's a letter, an e-mail from cgi to cms. now, cms is the group that was charged with bringing the obama care website up and running. the group within obama care, the center for medicaid and medicar